The Encyclopedia of Arda - an interactive guide to the world of J.R.R. Tolkien
East of Mirkwood, flowing southward out of the Iron Hills
Into Celduin
'Red water'
Other names


About this entry:

  • Updated 14 July 2011
  • This entry is complete

River Carnen

The long river known as the Redwater

Map of the river Carnen

A river that rose in the Iron Hills, far to the north and east of the known parts of Middle-earth. Its winding course took it southwards for more than two hundred miles, until its waters emptied into the Celduin (the River Running) and were carried on southwards to the Sea of Rhûn.

The river's name, Carnen, is a direct Elvish equivalent of its Mannish name, the Redwater. Both are very likely a reference to its source in the Iron Hills, since rivers whose sources lie among iron deposits have water with a very distinctive red-orange colour.



In annotations made to the map for The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien labels this river 'The Red River'. This is somewhat strange, as all other sources (including the text of the book itself) give it a translated name of 'Redwater', and indeed this is a direct translation of the Elvish name. However, it does seem that Tolkien at least considered 'Red River' as an alternative to 'Redwater', though this alternative does not appear in any other source.

See also...

River Redwater


About this entry:

  • Updated 14 July 2011
  • This entry is complete

For acknowledgements and references, see the Disclaimer & Bibliography page.

Original content © copyright Mark Fisher 2001, 2011. All rights reserved. For conditions of reuse, see the Site FAQ.

Website services kindly sponsored by Discus from Axiom Software Ltd.
We have been developing and providing DISC psychometric reports for 30 years! Find out more about us at Discus Online.
The Encyclopedia of Arda
The Encyclopedia of Arda
Homepage Search Latest Entries and Updates Random Entry